Sana Gül Bahçesi Vadetmedim

Sana G l Bah esi Vadetmedim ine do du u d nyan n kurumlar yla ba da may renemeyen ileti imsizli in karanl nda ya ayan on alt ya ndaki bir gen k z n yk s Sana G l Bah esi Vadetmedim delili in resmi tan m yla ak l hastal n n yk

  • Title: Sana Gül Bahçesi Vadetmedim
  • Author: HannahGreen Joanne Greenberg Nesrin Kasap
  • ISBN: 9789753424080
  • Page: 205
  • Format: Paperback
  • ine do du u d nyan n kurumlar yla ba da may renemeyen, ileti imsizli in karanl nda ya ayan on alt ya ndaki bir gen k z n yk s Sana G l Bah esi Vadetmedim, delili in, resmi tan m yla ak l hastal n n yk s Deborah kimlik kavram n yitirip i ine kapanm , zengin d lemi ve mizah duygusuyla yaratt kendi d sel d nyas na s nm t r ki d nyan n at maya ine do du u d nyan n kurumlar yla ba da may renemeyen, ileti imsizli in karanl nda ya ayan on alt ya ndaki bir gen k z n yk s Sana G l Bah esi Vadetmedim, delili in, resmi tan m yla ak l hastal n n yk s Deborah kimlik kavram n yitirip i ine kapanm , zengin d lemi ve mizah duygusuyla yaratt kendi d sel d nyas na s nm t r ki d nyan n at maya ba lamas , Deborah n ak l hastanesine d me sine neden olur Bundan sonra hastaneleri, doktorlar vb kurumlar yla toplumun kurtarma operasyonu ba lar.Greenberg in kendi ya am ndan yola karak yazd bu kitap, ak l hastalar n n gizleri zerine pek ok ipucu ta rken, toplumun yerle ik de er yarg lar na arp c bir ele tiri de getiriyor, b ylece normal kavram n sorgulamaya g t r yor bizi.

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    1. I first read this in 1966 when I was 13 and in the 8th grade and it became my favorite book and remained my favorite book throughout high school. I reread it many times, although it's been years since my last reading. This is a story of a young woman ages 16-19 who is suffering from severe mental illness (in the book she is diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia) in a mental hospital. My understanding is that this book is based on a true story and the hospital was Chestnut Lodge and the psychiatr [...]

    2. To get below the surface of this book, one must invest himself/herself. This I was willing to do. As a fellow sufferer of mental illness, I long for memoirs of those who've gone through the same as me. It's easy to read a book without really getting it, and that's why the people in other reviews have given this book below five stars. They're quick to say it's boring, afraid of the cause the book gives for deep thinking, which they probably haven't been able to grasp. They're the ones who've neve [...]

    3. This was a powerful and painful reading experience and not something I would have naturally gravitated to on my own. I chose to read this upon the recommendation of a friend and I'm very glad I did. I have no idea what the author's history is but she did a marvelous job at getting inside the head of a very disturbed girl who has been committed to a mental hospital. Reading this story reinforced my committment to never lie to my child. It brought back memories of my own teenage years and the lies [...]

    4. As someone who feels like they deal with mental illness on a daily basis, it was hard for me to enter the mind of someone with schizophrenia. I just couldn’t deal with the concept. It was well written but just not for me at this time.

    5. Tüm insanların tamamen sağlıklı olduklarına inanmadığımdan ve de günlük belirli boyutlarda psikolojik tramvalar yaşadıklarından, bu tarz eserler bazen bizim bir miktar iç dünyalarımızın yansıtırlar.Böylelikle Dr.Fried'ın Deborah'a söylediği ''Sana Gül Bahçesi Vadetmedim.'' cümlesi yerinde olmuştur.Ki biz buna benzer serzenişleri günlük yaşamımızda çok fazla söyleyip ve yahut duymuşuzdur.Aslında Doğa'da yanlızlığımız bize hatırlatılmakta, savaşın k [...]

    6. When we meet Deborah, she’s on her way to a mental hospital. She’s two years short of finishing high school, and she’s recently been hospitalized for slitting her wrists. Her mother, at least, is aware that there’s something not quite right about Deborah, but she can’t really put her finger on what it is. A famous therapist agrees to work with Deborah to help her sort out her problems. Only pages into this novel, readers glimpse Deborah’s uniquely frightening psychological landscape [...]

    7. What a beautifully written semi-autobiographical story of the struggle of a young girl attempting to refocus her energies on the real world, making the transition from being mentally ill and being mentally well, as well as the stigma placed on those who have psychiatric diagnoses. As someone with experience both as a mental health professional and a patient, I can see both perspectives. It is never easy to go from the safety of the hospital environment back into the world, where one must live a [...]

    8. Deli nedir, neye denir?Biz deli miyiz?Delirmek üzere olduğumuzu hissettiğimiz anlarda adlında gerçek deliliğe ne kadar yakınız?İşte bütün bu soruların cevabı bu kitapta. Bir deli kızımız var; Deborah. Zihninde apayrı, fantastik bir dünya var; Yr. Bu dünya ile bağlantı kurabilen tek ve yegane kişi de yine kendisi. Yr isimli bu dünyanın kendine ait bir dili var. Ve bu dilide yine sular seller gibi konuşabiliyor Deborah. Hastalık öyle boyutlara varmış ki, kız yeni bir [...]

    9. This is a brilliant book and perhaps deserves more than three stars, but there are certainly problems, most having to do with our better understanding of schizophrenia in more recent times. As a historical document, the book powerfully represents a world in which large industrial-size mental hospitals were considered advanced, state-of-the-art facilities. Seclusion rooms and cold packs (trapping a patient in ice-cold sheets) were also considered constructive treatments, as was intensive psychoan [...]

    10. I read this book in my early twenties and don't remember much about it than its haunting descriptions of the fantasy world of the schizophrenic protagonist. It also resulted in my writing a novelette in Malayalam about a young, gifted woman in an unsatisfying marriage to a dull man, slowly going mad and into her fantasy world. (I lost the manuscript, which was just as well, because the story was totally derivative and cringe-worthy.)Maybe if I read it again, my star rating would go up. In those [...]

    11. A moving, thought-provoking and inspiring account of a young girl's struggle with schizophrenia. Following a suicide attempt, Debra, aged just 16, is committed to a mental hospital. Over the next three years she works with her psychiatrist to understand her illness and explores the possibility of mental health. Her precarious progress is punctuated by periods where she falls back into the terror of her illness. I first read this book as a healthy twenty year old with high hopes for my future, an [...]

    12. "[I like the] fine old word asylum that suggests a haven, a refuge, a place where hospitality and restfulness prevail." -George A Zeller MD, of Peoria State HospitalJoanne Greenberg was hospitalized for schizophrenia from 1948 to 1951. She was lucky. This was before the introduction of the pharmaceuticals that are the sum total of psychiatry today. It was after the craze for lobotomies and shock treatments (can you believe they gave the Nobel Prize to the guy who invented lobotomies?) She was lu [...]

    13. This is such a stupid book. I read it in high school and it was one of those books that was so bad I couldn't pry myself from it. It's partly because I'd seen so much mental illness in my own family that gave me such a significant desire to see something somehow more substantial but this effort just feels entirely shallow to me. The therapist was just bad. I mean Bad. BAD. Horrible. What an unhelpful, cold BITCH. I mean, she is portrayed rather heroically but it's rare that I want to reach throu [...]

    14. I read this for a Developmental Psychopathology class and ended up really enjoying it. The purpose of the assignment was to examine the state of the science on schizophrenia both at the time of publication (1964) and today, and the ways in which the public's views of schizophrenia may have been shaped through reading this novel. Today as in the 1960s, mental illness carries a highly negative social stigma. Greenberg presents a humanized view of mental illness with a focus on the painful experien [...]

    15. I read this book for an undergrad class assignment and I loved it. This book represents the real thoughts of a person diagnosed with Schizophrenia. What I've read is that the author of this book is actually the protagonist of the story. She was a 16 year old dianosed with this degenerative illness that affects the person as well as others around them. She was dianosed when the mere mention of this illness would cause confusion and guilt to parents who thought that somehow they were at fault for [...]

    16. I read this too long ago to really review it properly.I do remember it being a favorite book when I was young and troubled.

    17. Deborah, yeryüzü ile YR arasındaki kız.Dünyanın saçmalığı ve YR'nin zorbalığı arasında sıkışıp kalmış şizofreni hastası Deborah.Dünyasızlık mümkün değil, mümkün olsa eminim seçmek isterdik. İnsanoğlu kendini dünyaya bağlıyor, bağlamak zorunda. Koptuğun zaman kayıpsın, ya da dünyalılara göre öyle işte.Bu kitabı sevdim ama sanki anlatım yeterince iyi değil gibi geldi bana, sanki o "kopuşlar", paralel evren, yeni dünyaya giriş ve dünyamıza dönü [...]

    18. "Cehennemin eşiğine gelmiş kişilerin şeytandan ödü kopuyordu; zaten cehennemin içinde olanlar içinse şeytan özel biri değildi, yalnızca başka biriydi, o kadar.""Benim hastalığım ağzına kadar dolup taşmış bir bardak, senin küçücük damlan taşan kısmın içinde çoktan eriyip gitti""İnsan mahkum olacaksa, güzel olmalı, yoksa dram yalnızca komedi olur.""Acı çekmenin tekelinizde mi olduğunu sanıyorsunuz?" Kitabı 2 hafta önce bitirim, ama elim buraya yorum yazmaya [...]

    19. First off, I'll ask you now, judging by the title what did YOU expect?I wasn't expecting any action. No, not in the slightest. but that titleI don't know why but first time I read it ('twas during my mental illness literature phase)I was like, Wow, I'm definitely giving that a go. I Never Promised You a Rose Garden's not a special title but there's a little something magnetic about it. Here's the possible tale that ran through my mind. The protagonist (let's call her Anna), who is schizophrenic, [...]

    20. There were so many big words in this book, but i got through it and i was satisfied with the ending. It's about the three years a teenage girl, Deborah, spends at an asylum. Throughout the book, she constantly retreats to an imaginary world that she created to block out what she couldn't accept in the real world. Her time at the asylum wasn't at all bad because she made new friends and those were the only true friends she ever had. I think the friendship she built at the time gave her a reason t [...]

    21. I never read "classic" young adult literature when I was technically a young adult. I thought it was too fluffy or too silly or too angst-ridden to be interesting. Let's face it: I was a book snob. Still am kind of a book snob, but at least I realize my error and am trying to correct it.You know how the human mind makes odd associations sometimes, with nothing to back up the association other than some fluke of a synaptic bridge? When I was younger, I thought that this was the sequel to Summer o [...]

    22. The thing that is so wrong about being mentally ill is the terrible price you have to pay for survival. - p. 63The people on the edge of Hell were most afraid of the devil; for those already in hell the devil was only another and no one in particular. - p. 72There are other deaths than death -- worse ones. - p. 73The boredom of insanity was a great desert, so great that anyone's violence or agony seemed an oasis, and the brief simple moments of companionship seemed like a rain in the desert that [...]

    23. An interesting book, and quite good. However it's definitely a product of its time. I dislike the implications that mental illness can be caused by an individual or hir parents, and that it is only a matter of willpower to overcome it.

    24. I was surprised by this book. I knew that it was about a young girl with mental illness, but I didn't expect it to feel so real or myself to feel so connected to Deborah. I somehow forgot that the story was being told about Deborah rather than by her. Every time I remembered, it was jarring in a way. That's the skill of Greenberg because the reader inhabits Deborah's thoughts then is forced out of them when the narrative switches to Dr. Fried's point of view or to Jacob and Esther's point of vie [...]

    25. Of the many stories about young girls plunged into the depths of mental illness, I have found this one to be particularly interesting (and it is autobiographical). Deborah Blau lives in a frightening world that she has created in her own mind that consists of characters who eventually turn evil and begin to torment her. When her parents finally become resigned to commiting Deborah to a mental institution, her situation becomes worse before it gets better. As a child, she suffered from a urinary [...]

    26. Kendi dünyasında yaşayan bir genç kız: deborah. sonsuz hayal gücüyle yarattığı bu dünya onu gerçek dünyadan o kadar koparmış ki artık ailesi çözümü onu kliniğe yatırmakta buluyor.her zaman şizofreni gibi hastalıkları belli bir acıma ile karşılamaya eğilimliyiz. bu kitapta acımanın çok daha ötesine gidecek adeta karakterle özdeşleşecek ve onunla beraber bu kuyudan çıkmaya çalışacağızeenberg aslında kendi hikayesini anlatıyor. okuyucuya da bunu hissetti [...]

    27. "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden," is a beautiful book based on a true story. Knowing that this is a retelling of the authors own experience as a sufferer of mental illness lends credibility to all aspects of the tale.Contrary to the current belief that most metal illnesses are life long diseases that forever need managing, it's amazing to discover that there are people who have recovered from schizophrenia--the most frightening mental illness of all. Not only that, but the details provided i [...]

    28. It took me quite a while to tackle this book – the first memoir of schizophrenia that I have tried. It took a little getting used to, as it absorbs you straight into the world of the mentally unstable, hallucinations and all very well defined, but it was a masterpiece and I thoroughly enjoyed it, whilst learning a little about my own Mother’s possible symptoms at the same time. It follows the other side of her story, through her parents – their thoughts, feelings and actions on their daugh [...]

    29. I am uncertain about this book. In some aspects, I did enjoy it and found parts of it interesting - the author certainly made some good points surrounding the morals and stigma related to mental illness. I was drawn to the book due to the fact it was concerning mental illness and I do think that it portrayed some of the struggles quite well. It was interesting to me how one can relate to certain ideas or thoughts put forward in this book even though it is set in the past. I particularly liked re [...]

    30. I first read this book as a young teen, probably not more than 14 years after it was published. I remember being fascinated by Deborah's internal world of Yr more than anything else. To the best of my knowledge I am not mentally ill, but I was socially awkward and lived in my own head so much I remember even trying to see if I could find my way into Yr, not truly grasping that it was a construct Deborah had made up to protect herself from the world.Re-reading it now, as an adult, I'm aware of al [...]

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