Necessity

Necessity Necessity the sequel to the acclaimed The Just City and The Philosopher Kings Jo Walton s tales of gods humans and what they have to learn from one another More than sixty five years ago Pallas At

  • Title: Necessity
  • Author: Jo Walton
  • ISBN: 9780765379023
  • Page: 304
  • Format: Hardcover
  • Necessity the sequel to the acclaimed The Just City and The Philosopher Kings, Jo Walton s tales of gods, humans, and what they have to learn from one another.More than sixty five years ago, Pallas Athena founded the Just City on an island in the eastern Mediterranean, placing it centuries before the Trojan War, populating it with teachers and children from throughout humNecessity the sequel to the acclaimed The Just City and The Philosopher Kings, Jo Walton s tales of gods, humans, and what they have to learn from one another.More than sixty five years ago, Pallas Athena founded the Just City on an island in the eastern Mediterranean, placing it centuries before the Trojan War, populating it with teachers and children from throughout human history, and committing it to building a society based on the principles of Plato s Republic Among the City s children was Pytheas, secretly the god Apollo in human form.Sixty years ago, the Just City schismed into five cities, each devoted to a different version of the original vision.Forty years ago, the five cities managed to bring their squabbles to a close But in consequence of their struggle, their existence finally came to the attention of Zeus, who can t allow them to remain in deep antiquity, changing the course of human history Convinced by Apollo to spare the Cities, Zeus instead moved everything on the island to the planet Plato, circling its own distant sun.Now, than a generation has passed The Cities are flourishing on Plato, and even trading with multiple alien species Then, on the same day, two things happen Pytheas dies as a human, returning immediately as Apollo in his full glory And there s suddenly a human ship in orbit around Plato a ship from Earth.

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    1. This was a fitting conclusion to a series that is unlike anything else in science fiction, and I'm so glad that I listened to the audiobook rather than reading it. (Not that I'm going to not read it. When I get a copy, that will probably spark my third reread of the previous books, and this one again.)Two reasons why I loved hearing this book instead of reading it: I loved the narrator, whose accents and emotional colorations added a dimension that I hadn't expected. The second reason is that li [...]

    2. Athena and Apollo created an experimental city designed to create a perfect version of Plato's Republic. In the first book of the series, the denizens of this Bronze Age city debated with Athena and decided to change some of the rules; those who disagreed left to found their own cities. In the second book, the cities began to war with each other, until at last Zeus intervened and moved them to an alien planet thousands of years in the future, where they could freely create without troubling abou [...]

    3. And it was a sentimental fantasy, in the end. The last thing I expected from this intellectualized, consciously cerebral thing. Review to come on B&N in the next couple weeks.

    4. Another superb novel by Jo Walton. I absolutely love this series that explores many science-fictional themes using the culture of classical Athens (the majority of the other SF novels about ancient Greek or Roman culture are really much more fantasy than science-fiction; see the recent Wolf's Empire: Gladiator). Walton manages to overcome the majority of the problems and creates, despite the presence of gods, a perfect science-fiction series (and of course that Socrates would've been an avid ski [...]

    5. Review from Tenacious Reader: tenaciousreader/2016/03.5/5 starsNecessity is the final book in the Thessaly trilogy by Jo Walton. As the story continues generations from the start of the series, we find the citizens doing very well, integrating themselves into the interstellar world. There are alien residents and traders visiting the planet. The individual cities seem to be thriving, and people are free to move wherever they feel best fits their personal ideology. It is utopia, finally (or at lea [...]

    6. On the whole, I don't think Walton finishes the trilogy as strong as she starts it. It is not a book that adds that much to her vision of Plato's republic. I enjoyed reading it quite a bit but not as much as the previous two volumes. As a whole, the trilogy is a work to remember though. Walton takes on complex subjects and ideas in these books and yet manages to keep them very accessible. I would not be surprised to see a few people pick up some of Plato's works (note that Walton does not recomm [...]

    7. This is the third and apparently final book in the Thessaly series by Jo Walton. I enjoyed the entire series, although I did think this book was a little weaker than the previous two. When the book first began, I had the impression that the story would focus on something that seemed very interesting to me. Instead, that “something” made up only a small portion of the story because the main characters were caught up in other things that were going on. The actual story was interesting, and the [...]

    8. I was so disappointed in this book. It was not the conclusion to the series I hoped for.For one, the opportunity presented by reuniting with humanity was entirely overlooked: the novel appears to assume that of course Plato's culture will hold its own, that it has reached some kind of permanent maturity that will not be open to outside influence. We don't even see the two sets of humans interacting with each other; they don't even meet until the last page. For another, this assumption appears to [...]

    9. This is not the finale I was hoping for."The Just City" and "The Philosopher Kings" were remarkable books about how societies are built. About what one does when one feels, "No, society can be better than this," finds compatriots, and makes an honest, devoted attempt at it. About the problems and pitfalls societies face, how complexity and tension and differences mount inevitably, and, perhaps, how one can make the effort nonetheless.I had expected "Necessity" to continue along these lines, to p [...]

    10. Jo Walton's Thessaly series is brilliant. If you've ever read Plato, you should enjoy it. The basic premise is that the goddess Athene lets mortals create a city based on Plato's Republic. The first volume, The Just City, thrilled me, partly because Socrates appears and questions everything.The second volume, The Philosopher Kings, was also very good, but lacked the presence of Socrates.Socrates shows up again in Necessity and shines again. A world without Socratic questioning is not worth havin [...]

    11. (For another version of this and other reviews, see my blog: examinedworlds/20).As a science fiction fan and philosophy professor who teaches Plato's Republic somewhat regularly, these books are right up my alley. I really enjoyed the first two (see my previous reviews: examinedworlds/20 and examinedworlds/20). I was lucky enough to meet Walton as a book signing recently, where I told her that as a philosopher, I approve of this series.I continued to love the philosophical aspects of this third [...]

    12. Looking back, I thinkThe Just City was probably the best and purest of the three after all. The scale here is so grand that Walton has to structure the story around plot coupons (warning: TV Tropes) just to get a handle on things, and that's before we get to the temporal mechanics. Perhaps I'm too dourly unconvinced by the third-volume outbreak of functional utopia: Both of the previous books centered ethically on really nasty divine behavior, whereas here everyone means well(view spoiler)[and e [...]

    13. I love each book in the series wholeheartedly, though each in a different way. I don't even want to review these books in more detail, because you just have to experience them for yourself. Going to work on some pieces inspired by the book--here's the first:

    14. I actually read this book a couple of months back, and have kept delaying reviewing it because this series is so hard to describe. "Necessity" was not at all what I thought it would be after reading the description and opening. However, I think that that has been one of the strengths of this series for me all along. The books do not rely on plot points and action, but on the development of ideas (and, to some extent, characters). "Necessity" brings the themes begun in "The Just City" to a satisf [...]

    15. The third volume is set forty years after the five Cities are transferred to a new planet, which its inhabitants call Plato. I don't think the conclusion of the trilogy is quite as strong as the first two volumes, but it has some great moments. There are two different examples of first contact here, with the inhabitants of Plato meeting alien species, and humans from Earth discovering Plato - but I would have liked to know more about those elements, especially the latter which turns out to be a [...]

    16. Greek gods in space. GREEK GODS IN SPACE. GREEK GODS IN SPACE AND TIME GONE WIBBLY WOBBLY AND ALSO ALIEN GODS AND PHILOSOPHY AND SCIENCE EEEEEEEEEEEEE!!Needless to say this was lovely and I want to make time to reread the whole series all at one go so I can fully appreciate how well all the little bits of story meet up.

    17. Necessity was a great end to the trilogy, and I really enjoyed reading this so much. I went back to my reviews of the first and second books and bumped them to to 5 stars. I was definitely excited when I got this book in my hands.At the beginning of Necessity it appears that the plot is going to veer off in a crazy direction, but in fact it focuses on the issues that have been present in all the books. If you haven't read any of the Thessaly books, please go back and read the first one. In the b [...]

    18. Even though I have not read volumes one and two in this series, I liked this book a lot. It is science fantasy that posits that the Greek gods (and others--even Christ is mentioned, but he does not appear) really exist. In earlier volumes, they had transplanted a city of ancient Greeks (including Sokrates) to an alien planet, thousands of years in the future, to establish a society based on Plato's principles. Though some of the action here is not entirely clear, given that I don't know exactly [...]

    19. The Just Cities on Thera have been moved by Zeus to a planet called Plato. They trade with a couple of alien civilizations, and some of the aliens even live on Plato with the humans. The aliens have their own pantheons of gods. Pytheas has grown very old and dies at the beginning of the book, thus releasing him to be Apollo once more. He finds out that Athene has disappeared into Chaos and he gathers some characters (from the previous books) who have died in order to go several places to get pie [...]

    20. I was a little disappointed by this final book in an otherwise phenomenal series. By all means, I don't think this book was bad- it was quite fun reconnecting with many of the characters from the first two books in the series, and continuing to see what has happened to the city, but the plot felt a little unmoored. I think the series from the start has had two different threads- the first is the construction of the city, the building of a new society from scratch, and the growing pains that a so [...]

    21. 3.5 starsSOOO, this trilogy has certainly been a MOST interesting journey. I did not expect half the world-building twists that appeared in the course of this series, and there have been long stretches of plot and character narration that have lost me (or at least fallen firmly into the 3-star category). NONETHELESS, I feel nothing but admiration for what Jo Walton has come up with in this odd little trilogy. These are without a doubt the strangest books I've ever attempted to describe to people [...]

    22. I absolutely loved the first book of this series, The Just City. I didn't love book 2, The Philosopher Kings, nearly as much, but I gave it four stars based on my adoration for book 1 and the hope of a strong ending to the trilogy in book 3. I'm sorry to say that this book, Necessity, was pretty disappointing. The first book was just so meaty and fascinating - it took an idea (the gods creating a city as an experiment to see Plato's work in action) and gave it space to breathe. There was no shor [...]

    23. This series really couldn't sustain three books. This one felt particularly rushed and choppy. I felt like I could see the bones of the writing process sticking out all over the place. (For instance, in an overpopulated expository conversation in the middle of the book, after a character speaks, the narrating character notes that they'd forgotten that character was even there--it's okay if you forgot when writing, Ms. Author Lady! Either we don't need to know about it, or it's probably a sign th [...]

    24. How wonderful for a trilogy to be complete and to not go on for 30,000 more books! It is complete! I find it difficult to review this third book because I feel I'd say all the same things that I already said about the previous two books and what I loved about them, because I still feel the same way, but I'll give it a shot and try to distinguish between them.About 40 more years have passed since the time of the previous book and some new characters are introduced along with some of those who hav [...]

    25. I love this series so much, and pretty much as with all Jo Walton books, I find it hard to explain why. Part of it is just that the ideas are so rich and compelling and different. Part of it is that her writing is still so accessible that I don't get bogged down and bored in topics that would otherwise tend to bore me — in this case, philosophical discussions of the nature of freedom, the gods, justice, and the soul, especially as enacted in an experimental city that started out in ancient ti [...]

    26. Not great. Not nearly as interesting or thought-provoking as the previous two. Feels thrown together just to end things, and thus feels like a huge run around, accomplishing nothing.Quick vague synopsis:Big event that seemed like it should be the focus is barely mentioned, resolved as a "oh, by the way" in a fraction of a single chapter at the end.Actual focus of the book is a huge fetch quest/macguffin/red herring/wild goose chase THAT HAS NO STATED RESOLUTION. In fact, the characters prepare t [...]

    27. So book 1 is a neat extension of the original thought experiment. Book 2 continues plausibly enough from the end of book 1. Book 3, though, kind of jumps on board the crazy train.

    28. There were very few loose ends to wrap up at the end of the last book, so I wasn't sure what to expect from this book. Unfortunately, it did not live up to previous two books in the series. Near the beginning of the book the residents of Plato receive news that Earth's humans have made contact. I was interested to see how the planet's inhabitants would react to a culture that would be very different than their own. However, the author barely addressed this issue at all. Instead she inexplicably [...]

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