Fiasco

Fiasco Nos hallamos en el siglo xxii y parece que por fin la humanidad va a hacer realidad un viejo sue o entablar relaci n con seres inteligentes de otros sistemas planetarios Con todo la tripulaci n de la

  • Title: Fiasco
  • Author: Stanisław Lem
  • ISBN: 9788491043034
  • Page: 419
  • Format: Paperback
  • Nos hallamos en el siglo xxii y parece que por fin la humanidad va a hacer realidad un viejo sue o entablar relaci n con seres inteligentes de otros sistemas planetarios Con todo, la tripulaci n de la nave que tiene encomendada la misi n, pese a hallar muestras de t cnica bastante avanzada, no obtiene la respuesta esperada La reacci n del hombre ante el fracaso y la difNos hallamos en el siglo xxii y parece que por fin la humanidad va a hacer realidad un viejo sue o entablar relaci n con seres inteligentes de otros sistemas planetarios Con todo, la tripulaci n de la nave que tiene encomendada la misi n, pese a hallar muestras de t cnica bastante avanzada, no obtiene la respuesta esperada La reacci n del hombre ante el fracaso y la dificultad inherente a todo intento de comunicaci n desempe ar n, al cabo, un papel esencial en la cadena de decisiones que lleva a un amargo desenlace no exento de iron a En FIASCO se dan cita una vez m s la preocupaci n por las dimensiones moral y filos fica del hombre, la pugna entre t cnica y tica, el derroche de fantas a dotada de s lida base cient fica y el vigor narrativo de Stanislaw Lem.

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    1. FULL, FINAL REVIEW“I don't think anything can behave as unintelligently as intelligence.”― Stanisław Lem, FiascoIn many important respects Fiasco is Stanisalw Lem’s crowning achievement. Publsihed in 1986 toward the end of the Polish author's distinguished career spanning more than half a century, the novel contains at its heart a key theme revisited by Mr. Lem over the years: the impact of science and technology on multiple dimensions of intelligence and communication. What a literary [...]

    2. Respecting the Eternally DeadThis is science fiction at its best. It is scientific because it employs technology that is not yet available but is nevertheless plausible in theory. It is fictional not because it proposes some strange physics in an alien galaxy-far-away but because it presents an alternative cosmology to the one that exists, unchallenged, in our own heads. This is a counter-fiction that is shocking and intriguing in equal measure; and it makes Fiasco a masterpiece.Lem reveals and [...]

    3. This is one of the best, and also one of the most brutal, books I've ever read. It is a hard read. This is not a book for the faint; it explores, as does a lot of communist science fiction, the utter impossibility of rational exchange between crazy-different cultures. Also a lot in here about the failings of man. Not a book for the faint of heart.

    4. Fiasco is a deeply pessimistic science fiction novel. It's about the typical hard sci-fi topic: first contact between humans and aliens. And as in "Rendezvous With Rama," "The Forever War," and "The Mote in God's Eye," much of the fun is the detailed imagining of how interstellar space travel would actually work, complete with relativistic time distortion and keeping humans alive in alien worlds. What separates this book from those others is Lem's belief that true understanding between different [...]

    5. A fiasco on Saturn's Moon, Titan, causes the loss of several men. Many years later, the starship Eurydice is built on Titan for a mission to the far side of the coalsack nebula, to investigate a planet where there they've found evidence of technological extra-terrestrial intelligence. The bodies of the men are found and packed aboard the Eurydice for revival, if possible. It happens that only one can be revived using the parts of another, but unfortunately they have no way of knowing exactly who [...]

    6. Do you despise "sci-fi" featuring aliens with legs/faces/eyes/fur that highlight the author's intellectual shallowness at best or intentionally insult your intelligence at worst? Does your heart rate accelerate when a spaceship in a book/movie flies between worlds with a flip of a switch magical warp drive - ignore relativity - tech without any expectation that you might be puzzled by the blatant inconsistencies with the physical laws of our universe? If intellectually lazy pretend-sci-fi is not [...]

    7. Fiasco can be seen as the consecuence of break the first directive of Star Trek.Fiasco is a complex SF novel that deepens in a recurrent issue in Lem : the fundamental dissability of the human mind of understand or comunicate with alien minds as in his novels Solaris or The Invincible.Is a really hard SF novel,where the scientific face is rigurous in the to day science as for example in the laser or Bussard fussion reactor as propulsion tools in a starship,and is plausible in the extrapolations. [...]

    8. I have to admit, the sole reason I took this novel off the shelf was love for the word ‘fiasco’. (There’s something so satisfying about it!) It then joined my library book pile because I know Stanislaw Lem to be an author of high quality science fiction weirdness (cf Memoirs Found in a Bathtub). On the back cover, a puff quote describes ‘Fiasco’ as ‘Brilliant and challenging’. Although my reflex was to scoff at the latter term, I am now inclined to agree with it. This is a dense, c [...]

    9. I consider this Lem's masterpiece. A brilliant story showing a step by step undermining of ideals in the face of foreign thinking, incomplete infornation, suspicion, and prejudices.

    10. I had a hard time reading this book. Not because it's not interesting--I think it deals with some of the most interesting themes in the world--but because Lem makes it really hard to read. It's provocative and fascinating as hell, but damn, it's not very fun to read.

    11. This book is not boring at all -- in fact it deals with a lot of fascinating ideas -- but damn it has problems. Not the least of which is the writing style, which might suffer from a bad translation but I doubt it. Much of the second half of the book is pure tell-don't-show, which must have started out that way in the original Polish unless the translator has been horribly irresponsible, and I would've loved to have instead read those scenes through the POV of a character. Lem can do this: we kn [...]

    12. No suelo releer libros, pero volverme a encontrar con Fiasco ha sido a la vez una "decepción" y una agradable sorpresa. Quizá porque la primera lectura fue en mitad de la carrera de Física, no recordaba tanto espacio dedicado al hard duro, lleno de colápsares y miles de teorías sobre el viaje más rápido que la luz que por momentos se convierten en un muro de palabras casi imposible de escalar (de hecho recordaba la narración inicial algo más corta y algo más espectacular). Pero al tiem [...]

    13. Philosophical, intellectual SF which is alternately amusing, tragic, exasperating and frightening. I love First Contact stories, and I think this one will stick in my head for awhile. The conceit of making Contact with a planet which just doesn't want to is explored brilliantly.The book does take too long to get to the CETI mission, and the opening is dreary reading which is incidental to the major plot, though has thematic resonance with the ending that I can appreciate. Everything really picks [...]

    14. It seems that cultural difference between human and alien civilization is one of the major themes of Lem's books, judging by previously read novel The Invincible and Tarkovsky's adaptation of Solaris.I must admit that this is the very first science fiction work which I found boring. Introduction is unnecessarily too long, as well as the whole book. Going into every single detail, Lem's writing style in Fiasco is closed to be called "tolstoyesque", apart from the fact that he is far from being To [...]

    15. Very thought provoking science fiction! To more fully enjoy the English translation of this book it would help to know some Latin, as much physics as possible especially of the black hole variety, and introductory game theory. The nice thing about this book's approach is that it is set in a distant enough future and location that it is free from simplistic political and scientific connections to the twentieth century. Surprisingly, SETI is the main tie-in to the history of space exploration for [...]

    16. 3.5-4An interesting book, filled with many philosophical and technological musings. The book has mostly no characterization and this is fine.Amazing amounts of philisophical thinking and conceptual development. The writing itself is quite good, but a tad bit ponderous. I loved the musing on the fermi paradox, the space action sequences, and the discussions with DEUS.The beginning was quite uneventful and completely irrelavent plot wise, but honestly I don't think plot and characters are the main [...]

    17. As a teenager, growing up un Poland, I read and loved every book written by Stanislaw Lem. He was the science-fiction writer by whom any other writer was measured. His alegorical, intelligent books touched on philosophy, psychology, sociology, but did not shy from humour and satire. Now, a couple of decades later, I got to read Lem's last, I believe, science-fiction novel, the one I didn't get to read as a student.Lem's unique language, full of obscure, old-fashioned words triggered some nostalg [...]

    18. Philosophical. Hard. Interminable.The premise is fascinating and unique: what if we finally make contact with aliens but they have zero interest in meeting or even communicating with us?Unfortunately we have to endure every discussion involved in answering that question, including all of the details of the future history required to understand it, and in painstaking detail, over the course of however long it takes to finally reach the other intelligent beings in another galaxy.At times it is ama [...]

    19. i adored the first section of fiasco, in that annoying hold-on-let-me-just read-you-this-one-paragraph way; parvis's solo trek across titan, ruminating on its lifeless beauty, is a perfect example of lem's ability to portray both breathtaking wonder and unforgiving bleakness at the same time. i also liked the introduction of tempe, which was done in an interesting & sympathetic enough way that it avoided coming off like a total sci-fi cliche. the story started lagging for me when the quintan [...]

    20. This is a tough one, even for Lem fans. Stick with it though, the long, dense build up in the beginning pays off. Like many of Lem's other works, this book documents the complete lack of cultural reference points, and thus any basis for communication whatsoever, between human and alien intelligence. In this case, repeated mis-communication leads to the worst of all possible outcomes. A fiasco indeed.The book contains some very interesting musings concerning human conceptions of alien life and th [...]

    21. Starts out great, but after its initial third Lem spends too much time on fake science and has characters behave too stupidly to be believable. Despite the themes skillfully weaved into the early parts of this book, the rest fails to capitalize on this, and so Fiasco falls far short of one of Lem's other novels about attempted contact, Solaris. I'll be comparing Fiasco to Solaris frequently throughout this review, so if you've haven't read the latter consider yourself warned- and also, go read S [...]

    22. Uh, väga hea raamat ja väga raske raamat üheaegselt. Raskeks tegid lugemise mitu asja, esiteks raske ja võõrsõnadest ning tehnilistest terminitest paks keel. Teiseks kujutas teos kohati endast rohkem erinevate fantastiliste teooriate ja filosoofiliste arutluste kogumit kui ilukirjanduslikku teost. Kohati oli tunne nagu loeks mõnd vana Nõukogude aegset populaarteadusliku teksti. Ja pean tunnistama, et alati ma ei suutnud end neist teooriatest-kirjeldustest läbi närida. Nii jäi mulle ü [...]

    23. Fiasco is a hard read. It's philosophical SF with a nihilist bent, and there are no corners cut discussing the speculative technologies. The bulk of the story occurs onboard a spaceship attempting to make contact with an alien civilization (think Rendezvous with Rama actually meeting Rama's creators). Fermi's paradox is invoked and addressed in true hard SF fashion, which is to say by drawing energy from stars and slingshotting through black holes and contemplating increasingly complex analogies [...]

    24. FIRST: Lots of complaints about the eBook format. It’s the worst I have encountered. The occasional lack of punctuation makes for some interesting (and frustrating) sentences. There are words I am not even sure are words—even in science fiction. Suspend your anger—since this book has been out of print for a long time and e-format is your only choiceW THE BOOK: Human nature and the universe we inhabit are both presented in all their forms, and this complicated web of physics, psychology, ga [...]

    25. One of there rare recent books that would make me think I'm always wasting time whenever I'm not reading it. As usual for Lem, the book is full of futuristic philosophical topics, magnificent and 'realistic' explanations of future technologies, detailed description of yet non-existing (and maybe also never-existing) concepts. and what I like in Lem's novels most is that he can easily place the reader into the world he created to experience his heroes' feelings, to see what they see, hear what th [...]

    26. تنها به این گفته از نقد روزنامهٔ تایمز بر این کتاب بسنده می‌کنم: «اصولا هر کتابی که نام لم را بر خود دارد، باید هشدار سازمان بهداشت دولتی را نیز داشته باشد: خواندن این داستان برای سلامتی مفید است»نقل‌قول از موخرهٔ پایان کتاب در صفحهٔ ۴۰۸ برگردان پیمان اسماعیلیان، چاپ اول ۱۳۸ [...]

    27. As a first contact book this one is pretty much different from any other one I have read. Lots of interesting ideas and a very different situation. Although the book was a bit long in setting up the situation and becomes a much different story a bit farther in.

    28. Ridiculously inventive hard sci-fi, although the story's a bit of a downer. (It's called Fiasco for a reason.) Detailed passages about sidereal travel and game theory slow things down and begin to feel like padding, but I get it. Very powerful finish.

    29. در هر حال من به عنوان کسی که عاشق کتاب های علمی تخیلیه ، کارهای لم رو از همه نویسنده ای علمی تخیلی بیشتر دوست دارم .ولی این یکی کارش رو مثل قبلی ها نپسندیدم

    30. (view spoiler)[Привет! Мы пришли с миром, поэтому сейчас расхерачим вашу луну. (hide spoiler)]

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